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Los Angeles Times / Bloomberg Poll: Clinton
Still Leads Democrats, but Trails Giuliani
Giuliani retains GOP lead for presidential
nomination as conservatives embrace former Tennessee senator Fred Thompson
WASHINGTON (By By Michael Finnegan, LATimes) June 12, 2007 — Among the
Democratic candidates, the race remains little changed from a
Times/Bloomberg poll in April.
New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton maintains a solid lead at 33%, followed
by Illinois Sen. Barack Obama at 22%. Running third, with 15%, is former
Vice President Al Gore, who continues to say he has no plans to seek the
office he barely lost in 2000. Fourth is former North Carolina Sen. John
Edwards at 8%.
Despite Clinton's lead, Obama is the strongest Democrat in hypothetical
match-ups with Republicans in the general election, running even or well
ahead of the GOP's top contenders.
Clinton, in a showing that could spark concerns among some Democrats, does
not fare as well. Against Giuliani, for instance, the poll found she would
lose by 10 percentage points.
Republicans antsy for a conservative standard-bearer in the presidential
race have begun to rally behind Fred Thompson, propelling the former
Tennessee senator to within hailing distance of the lead for the party's
nomination, a new Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg Poll has found.
Former New York Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani holds first place in the survey,
with support from 27% of the Republicans and independents who said they plan
to vote in the party's 2008 primaries.
But Thompson, an actor who played a prosecutor on NBC's "Law & Order," runs
just behind, with 21%. Indications are he will join the race within the next
month.
The two other major GOP contenders, Sen. John McCain of Arizona and former
Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, fall well short of the leaders and are in a
battle for third place. McCain was backed by 12% of those polled, Romney by
10%. The rest of the crowded field is mired in single digits.
Overall, the survey underscored the unsettled nature of the Republican
contest, with voters splitting roughly along ideological lines.
Giuliani, whose views on abortion, gay rights and guns are to the left of
many in his party, has built a wide base among moderates and independents,
while Thompson has drawn conservatives, particularly among the religious
right.
That dynamic, however, could change quickly. Giuliani has faced a swarm of
media scrutiny of his weak spots for months, but retains a lead in national
polls, although it is somewhat diminished.
Thompson, by contrast, is only starting to introduce himself. He has never
endured the rigors of a high-profile campaign and has not parried with
rivals in debates, as Giuliani and nine other Republicans have done three
times this spring.
Thompson "has this allure, but he hasn't been tested yet," said Times Poll
Director Susan Pinkus, who conducted the survey. "He has gotten a free ride
so far."
Conservatives uneasy
For months, many conservatives have been uneasy with their choices. The
survey shows that a substantial bloc, voters like poll respondent Ted
Uhlemann, 56, of Littleton, Colo., is gravitating toward Thompson, an
opponent of abortion rights and gun control.
"He's just more conservative than the rest of them," Uhlemann, an
environmental engineer, said of the top Republicans in a follow-up
interview. "They're all a little more liberal than I would expect the
candidate for the Republican Party to be."
For Giuliani, an ace remains his leadership of New York after the terrorist
strikes of Sept. 11, 2001. More than two-thirds of Republican-leaning
primary voters rate a candidate's views on terrorism and national security
as more important than stands on social issues. The top pick for those
voters: Giuliani, who has focused his campaign heavily on his record and his
commitment to fight terrorism.
For McCain, the survey pointed to lasting trouble among conservative
Republicans: One in four would not vote for him under any circumstances.
Their longstanding gripes have included his opposition to President Bush's
tax cuts and his backing for efforts — now apparently stalled in Congress —
to put illegal immigrants on a path to citizenship.
"McCain has too much of a liberal bent," said Pat Pensa, 60, a Republican
housewife who lives in Kennesaw, Ga., and leans toward Thompson.
As for Romney, the poll found no advancement despite a "60 Minutes" profile,
a Time magazine cover story and other national exposure in recent weeks.
Also, Thompson's initial success in attracting conservatives raises doubts
about Romney's drive to make inroads among those voters.
Still, polls in Iowa and New Hampshire — early-voting states where Romney
has campaigned heavily — put him in the top tier, offering hope that success
there could build momentum for primaries elsewhere.
Stuck on the bottom rungs in the Republican contest are former Arkansas Gov.
Mike Huckabee, who gets 3%; former Wisconsin Gov. Tommy Thompson, 2%; Rep.
Duncan Hunter of El Cajon, 1%; and Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback, and Colorado
Rep. Tom Tancredo, less than 1%. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who is
not in the race and has said he will not decide about running until the
fall, gets 9%.
When GOP primary voters were asked to choose among the top four, the field
broke into upper and lower ranks. On top were Giuliani, 32%, and Thompson,
28%; below were McCain, 17%, and Romney, 14%.
In the Democratic contest, Clinton's strong support among women, liberals,
minorities and older voters has kept her in first place.
"I just believe that she's right for the time," said Phyllis Fisher, 67, an
Arkansas independent who plans to vote in the Democratic primary.
The poll found Clinton a heavy favorite among Democratic primary voters who
value long experience in government and policy-making over an ability to
bridge partisan divides.
But a majority of Democrats and independents who plan to vote in the party's
nominating contests say a candidate's ability to bridge those divides is
more important — and those voters favor Obama.
Among Obama's other strengths: Younger voters prefer him to Clinton, and he
runs well — roughly even with Clinton — among more affluent and more
educated voters.
His supporters are also more inclined than Clinton's to view the Iraq war as
the most important issue in the race.
"We should have never gotten involved in it," said Kentucky nurse Frederick
Cole, 52, a Democrat. Obama's opposition to the war before it started is
part of what motivated Cole's support.
Beyond the top candidates, the poll found no evidence of a breakthrough by
lesser-known Democrats: Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware gets 5%; New
Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, 4%; Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich of Ohio, 2%; and
Sen. Christopher J. Dodd of Connecticut, 1%.
Narrowed to three choices, Clinton finishes first with 42%, followed by
Obama, 32%, and Edwards, 20%.
Good news for Giuliani
The hypothetical general-election matchups did not include Thompson, since
he has not formally entered the race. In many cases, the poll found that top
Democrats and the top Republicans would be locked in close contests.
The notable exceptions include Giuliani defeating Clinton, 49% to 39%, and
Romney losing by double digits to Obama or Edwards. Also lopsided was
Obama's margin over McCain: 47% to 35%.
Obama would defeat Giuliani, 46% to 41%, the poll found, and Edwards also
ran ahead of the former mayor, 46% to 43%.
The poll of 1,056 registered voters was conducted by telephone Thursday
through Sunday. Republican-leaning voters totaled 408; Democratic ones
numbered 449. The margin of sampling error is plus or minus 3 percentage
points for all voters, and plus or minus 5 points for voters in each
primary.
Still Clinton and Giuliani for 2008
Rudolph W. Giuliani still leads Republican candidates among Times Poll
respondents, but conservative Fred Thompson is gaining. Here's a look at
who's ahead and other issues in the run-up to the 2008 presidential
primaries:
Q: If the Republican primary or caucus for president were being held in your
state today and the candidates were Sen. Sam Brownback (Kan.), former House
Speaker Newt Gingrich, former New York Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, former
Gov. Mike Huckabee (Ark.), Rep. Duncan Hunter (Calif.), Sen. John McCain
(Ariz.), former Gov. Mitt Romney (Mass.), Rep. Tom Tancredo (Colo.), former
Gov. Tommy G. Thompson (Wis.) and actor and former Sen. Fred Thompson
(Tenn.), for whom would you vote? (Includes leaners*; among people who say
they'll vote Republican in the primary)
Republican primary voters
| Giuliani |
27% |
| Fred Thompson |
21% |
| McCain |
12% |
| Romney |
10% |
| Gingrich |
9% |
| Huckabee |
3% |
| Tommy Thompson |
2% |
| Hunter |
1% |
| Brownback |
-- |
| Tancredo |
-- |
| Other |
1% |
| Don't know |
14% |
Q: Would you be more or less likely to vote for a candidate for president in
November 2008 if you knew he or she was in favor of abortion rights, or
would knowing that not be a factor in your vote? (among people who say
they'll vote Republican in the primary)
| |
All GOP primary |
Conservative GOP |
| |
voters |
|
| More likely |
11% |
8% |
| Less likely |
39 |
45 |
| Not a factor |
48 |
45 |
| Don't know |
2 |
2 |
Q: If the Democratic primary or caucus for president were being held in your
state today and the candidates were Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.), Sen.
Christoper J. Dodd (Conn.), former Sen. John Edwards (N.C.), Sen. Joseph R.
Biden Jr. (Del.), Gov. Bill Richardson (N.M.), Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.),
former Vice President Al Gore, and Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich, for whom would
you vote? (Includes leaners*; among people who say they'll vote Democratic
in the primary)
Among Democratic primary voters
| Clinton
|
33% |
| Obama |
22% |
| Gore |
15% |
| Edwards |
8% |
| Biden |
5% |
| Richardson |
4% |
| Kucinich |
2% |
| Dodd |
1% |
| Other |
1% |
| Don't know |
9% |
Q: What is more important to you in choosing a candidate for president: a
candidate who bridges partisan divides, or a candidate with long experience
in government and policymaking?
| |
Bridges divides |
Experience |
|
All Dem.
|
| primary voters |
51% |
31% |
|
Those who would vote for: |
| Obama |
31% |
11% |
| Clinton |
21 |
51 |
| Gore |
15 |
14 |
| Edwards |
11 |
4 |
| Biden |
7 |
3 |
| Richardson |
3 |
6 |
| Kucinich |
3 |
-- |
| Dodd |
-- |
3 |
Q: If Hillary Clinton is the Democratic presidential nominee, will your
feelings about Bill Clinton affect your decision to vote for or against her
in the upcoming presidential general election, or will it not affect the way
you vote one way or the other?
(among registered voters)
| |
Dem. |
Ind. |
GOP |
Male |
Female |
| Positive way |
19% |
5% |
3% |
13% |
7% |
| Negative way |
6 |
12 |
24 |
17 |
12 |
| Not affect vote |
75 |
82 |
73 |
70 |
80 |
| Don't know |
-- |
1 |
-- |
-- |
1 |
Q: When you decide which candidate to support for your party's presidential
nomination, is his or her stand on Iraq/illegal immigration . . . : (among
registered voters)
| |
Iraq |
Illegal
immigration |
| The most important
issue |
36% |
15% |
| An important
issue, but not |
| most important |
58 |
66 |
| Not too important |
4 |
16 |
| Not important at
all |
1 |
2 |
Note: "--" indicates less than 0.5%.
*Those who are leaning toward a candidate.
Answers may not total 100% where some answer categories are not shown.
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